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		<title>You say &#8220;tomato,&#8221; and I say &#8220;whipping shitties&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2002 23:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dialect maps have been a standard research tool for linguists and philologists for a long time, but it&#8217;s becoming much easier to compile them. Now you can build yourself a nice website and let other people do the work for you. Of course you need some people to visit your site, so it helps if [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://www.starchamber.com/2002/11/you-say-tomato-and-i-say-whipping-shitties.html' addthis:title='You say &#8220;tomato,&#8221; and I say &#8220;whipping shitties&#8221;' ><a class="addthis_button_facebook"></a><a class="addthis_button_twitter"></a><a class="addthis_button_email"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dialect maps have been a standard research tool for linguists and philologists for a long time, but it&#8217;s becoming much easier to compile them. Now you can build yourself a nice website and let other people do the work for you. Of course you need some people to visit your site, so it helps if you get the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/10/technology/circuits/10diar.html">New York Times to write about it</a>. Harvard Linguistics Professor Bert Vaux has built just such a site, loaded with questions that geographically pin you down as a speaker of English in North America, automatically mapping the result. These questions include the venerable <a href="http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/staticmaps/q_105.html">Soda vs. pop?</a> and more than a hundred others. It makes for fascinating browsing.</p>
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Some of the maps are disappointing because you expect to see a more dramatic demarcation. I expect, for example, <a href="http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/staticmaps/q_93.html">waiting in line vs. waiting on line</a> to show a big &#8220;waiting on line&#8221; region around New York City and New Jersey. It doesn&#8217;t.<br />
Some of the maps are very satisfying. I live in the land of the rotary, and if you look at this map you&#8217;ll see exactly where that is: <a href="http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/staticmaps/q_84.html">rotary vs. traffic circle</a>. I was surprised how often New England was the strongly contrasting region (see the maps for <a href="http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/staticmaps/q_1.html">Aunt Mary vs. <i>Ahhnt</i> Mary</a> and <a href="http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/staticmaps/q_73.html">sneakers vs. tennis shoes</a>). This suggests that New England doesn&#8217;t mix much with the rest of the country. </p>
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Finally we come to <a href="http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/staticmaps/q_77.html">doughnuts vs. whipping shitties</a> (i.e. driving around in circles). This latter seems to be exclusive to Minnesota and Wisconsin. Can this be real, or is the good professor being hacked? Hmmmm&#8230;. you know, where I grew up we referred to flatulence as &#8220;looking for Mr. Goodbar&#8221; or &#8220;chatting with the Vice President.&#8221; If you &#8220;remember&#8221; this too, why don&#8217;t you join me in telling Professor Vaux? It could really put us on the map. Or we could just grab a beer and whip some shitties together.</p>
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I&#8217;ll close with a question of my own: have you ever referred to a wool hat as a <i>toboggan</i>? I did when I was growing up (North Carolina), but people in Massachusetts think this is a hilariously funny indication of mental deficiency.</p>
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